PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. To put it simply, PR Beyonder barely thinks of destroying John Constantine, in. Reviews. Follow 3068. Round 1: Molecule Man from the pre-retcon Beyonder era. i wanna hear mr. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. R1: PRB toys with Class 1-A, turning Bakugo into fireworks, Mineta grapes, Tsuyu a real frog you get the gist. Who is a better god like figure? PR Beyonder, even when defeated, knew exactly what was going on and even came back to humiliate Doom and show how irrelevant his plan was. Outside of TOAA, this is the only time and the only being with the right power to top PR Beyonder, imo. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. He tanks an attack that would destroy several billion dimensions like nothing from PR Molecule. #1 quandaledingle. Marth Kent rolls up a newspaper and hits him makes him do. PR Beyonder solo with utter ease. TOAA; Presence; Great Evil Beast; Living Tribunal; Scathan; Protégé; PR-Beyonder; PR-Molecule Man; Lucifer Morningstar; Michael Demiurgos. Brainiac is a hive consciousness that. I'm siding withBeyonder's been retconned at least twice afaik, his half-a-Cube-Being version was a pretty serious reality warper too. LocatiNew Comics. 1. Since this is PR Beyonder he might win, but the whole point of The Endless is that the three most powerful ones are way up there, and all of them combined have the same power level as the Presence. Bo88gdan. His power was millions of times greater than all of Marvel combined. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Beyonder solos. pr beyonder was to kill death and all the abstracts (eternity,watcher,LT,galactus,mephisto,celestials) begged him but he killed death anyway. Ite. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). 11 years ago. This is Marvel Vs Dc to see who has had the biggest Villain threats of all time. They have been - however, the influence of the Phoenix now extends to the realm of the Beyonders, which is the same realm where the Beyonder from the 80s is from. Forum Posts. If that's true, the Presence would be way weaker then PR Beyonder. -You may take DNA samples from 5 different Alien Races from any fictional media. Ultra (Ultraman) 4. Also, I'm using PR Beyonder before he was retconned into a cosmic cube. PR Beyonder was also a beast, without equal that was ever created orignally in it's existence (by Marvel). PR Beyonder shrugged of a shot that "would have slagged a few million entire dimensions" fired by the only other dude would could have leveled such a thing (PR Molecule Man). More recently in some versions TOAA has got more anti feats that PRB in terms of power, with Thanos events involving TOAA go. He was the TOAA of another mutliverse that came to Marvel's multiverse. (Cuz there are none. BEYONDERGOD. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. g2_ Follow 14321. Followers. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. ". Adm1ralSnackbar. @majestic99. Meanwhile, the Presence is said to have been created by external forces and is. In the Presence's case, Perpetua can create and destroy multiverses, The Judges are above her and the Presence is above them both. Post-Retcon Beyonder vs a Full-Powered Franklin Richards. Doom. Beyonder could honestly lose to any of the 3,but has the best chance of beating the Gentry at least 7/10. Following Secret Wars and Secret Wars II, the Beyonder experienced many notable retcons. 11 years ago. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . And Secret Wars Beyonder would annihilate all versions. Fulcrum. HOTU Thanos. 0. That would make LT like a germ/bug in comparison to PR-Beyonder. 3 years ago. 801. . PR Beyonder still wins unless of course that's MF Mxy which I doubt it is (and even if it was some idiot would argue that actually being able to change the beyonder into a turd doesn't count for. Iirc HotU isn’t allowed in battles given the type of power it is. Home Lists Doctor Manhattan Vs. Follow 7842. #1. I’m goin wit Batman. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. 3 years ago. It's more like PR Molecule Man was in a unique situation to fight Beyonder because Molecule Man's powers were derrived from PR Beyonder's Dimension. TOAA is above all. @majestic99. The Beyonder can take on Galactus and Superman isn't as strong and he would lose. the only times I see pr beyonder being Blinked by accident is by those above the endless. And the beyonders are destroying the entire Multiverse with no opposition,so they have no equal either. Merely has ultimate molecular control. Business, Economics, and Finance. the beyonder is literally the embodiment of a universe which dwarfs the mainstream multiverse, so he can do the same thing for the multiverse, but not all of marvel (since marvel is an omniverse. The Beyonders that killed all the Celestials then proceeded to shit on all the cosmic beings like The Living Tribunals. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. One on one, most people would say that PR. Oblivion is just another aspect of Death and Beyonder removed her from reality just like he would Oblivion. 0. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel. 13 years ago. Beyonder by just being angry caused multiversal destruction. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. Kryptonian (Superman) 2. This is the battle of the greatest Feat :)483K subscribers in the whowouldwin community. Yes. @asuva: @takenstew22: @shadow411: Ren and Reinhard paints the Law of the entire reality itself. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. PR Beyonder by feats and by on-panel dialogue. 313. Protege wouldn't have been able to copy Beyonder's powers unless he allowed it. No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. Forum Posts. If Doom goes at full confidence in. Beyonder is the bigger god. Whats the Greater Force of Power? COSMIC? or MAGIC? you be the Judge. living tribunal could not do a damn thing 12 years ago. Oh, and Doom has a gun. Lucifer is stated to be second ONLY TO THE JEWISH GOD (Yahweh). Van_Cere. Gen. Forum Posts. The beams are a secondary power to the effect. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. KingOfAsh. 11 years ago. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. " @Silver2467 said: "The two fought before. Current Beyonder should be very close to PR I'd say, they've established that the current version hasn't been retconned to a Ivory King and his final feat was leaving the Marvel multiverse. I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence. I am guessing since you said The Beyonder rather than A Beyonder you mean PR Beyonder, in which case he stomps. Holo-Man • 3 yr. Beyonder is the bigger god. As stated, numerous times throughout secret wars and in separate interviews with the creator (shooter) the beyond realm (and thus the beyonder's power) was MILLIONS OF TIMES greater than the marvel multiverse (again, Pre retcon this is ALL of marvel and. Mad Jim Jaspers Vs. User Lists: 0 #6 Edited By Crom-Cruach. The Living Tribunal's domain is the multiverse he's from, the Beyonder is the entire surrounding Beyond personified. Bump. R3: Pre-Crisis Superman. ShootingNova. Forums. While Manhattan is a multiversal entity tribunal is. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. And the beyonders are destroying the entire Multiverse with no opposition,so they have no equal either. I don't know a. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Marvel (and DC for that matter) didn’t have anythin beyond Multiverses back then in their cosmology. ) as regarding LT, you really must have. Not everything needs to have the uni/multi/omniverse on the line. Pr beyonder, ToAA, the presence, HoTU thanos. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. green_skaar. 15. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". Mxy still bitches every Darkseid save for Infinite Frontier since we don’t know yet. Flagged (sorry!) 11 years ago. And pr beyonder was never the writer, stop the cap. 11 years ago. PR Beyonder wins. Start off twenty feet away. He looks cooler, and has a cooler name. He's nowhere near the same ballpark as PR Beyonder. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. FinalStar86. Wiki Points. Standard equipment. The Beyonder First Appeared In 'Secret Wars'. New Comics. He changed the match from ssj2 Goku vs Jin Mori to Sai vs Beyonder lol. @eredin12: solar system level is roughly 150 times star level if you use our sun and solar. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. In the OG secret wars LT gathered a crew of the strongest cosmic entitities to face of PR Beyonder and couldnt do anything. No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. 0. And even then some endless beat pr beyonder. However, that is NOT always the most accurate way to decipher a victory. 8 years ago. Mxyzptlk. Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. In your opinion, what is the most impressive feat that any character from history has ever done. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesPR-Beyonder being from outside of the Living Tribunals domain (whoch he has ultimate judgement over) was really his only weakness. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. PR Beyonder is actually that powerful. Minor nitpick. "@Decoy Elite: sorry for bumping this thread but I needed to reply to. Jul 30, 2018. Round 1: No prep time. PR Beyonder and it’s not a fight. PR Beyonder. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. The thing is , Beyonder shrugged off a blast that "would have destroyed 1 million dimensions". but a little known dc character, part of the vertigo universe, Saints of Killers. #12 Edited By Pr_Beyonder @Crom-Cruach: Don't forget the regenerator G1 cell that allows Godzilla to regrow any amount of damage as long as he has regenerator cell present in his body,allowing him. Due to the fact that he is an agent of TOAA (basically god), The Living Tribunal is more powerful than any other entity, including PRB. LT did not get involved in the Beyonder/Owen fight, because he knew he was outmatched, and Owen was the multiverse's only hope. Best Answer. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. @traskindustries: He reminds me of Beyonder because of his pictures, not because. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. Beyonder in a curbstomp. i don,t have a pics but i do no some facts that are apparent: 1 the phoenix force has on. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. FollowHere's the deal. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. No chance of being omnipotent. . 2. 5 years ago. She/Her. 6 years ago. PR Beyonder. The Living Tribunal, PR-Beyonder, PR-Molecule Man, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, HOTU Thanos, Scathan the Approver, Mister Mxyzptlk. There are some moments where Beyonder was oddly weak during Secret Wars 2, but his consistent portrayal was ridiculous. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. He is another universe, pre-big bang. PRB has a lot of. Forum Posts. 0. The Beyonder's, on the other hand, aren't and that's what will give him the win. Outside of TOAA, this is the only time and the only being with the right power to top PR Beyonder, imo. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. 14 years ago. Forum Posts. Black winter lost to king thor with the power of galactus. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. doomsday49. Taikyoku is the beginning of all. Comic Writters>Comic characters, the PR beyonder was stated to be the representation of the writters in the comic in that they could do they anything and that they were beyond anything in the comic thus the name "The Beyonder". 0. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. . Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. So LT + Abstracts + Ultimate Nullifier + other beings of the whole multi-verse other than Molecule. 4 years ago. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is more powerful than the Living Tribunal. PR Beyonder is barley baseline just through making the beyond verse. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. COIE fully powered anti monitor was the entire DC multiverse, his reality warping and. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. This topic is locked from further discussion. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. I hear people say HoTU Thanos = TOAA but I have my doubts, I personally think it's just a fraction of TOAA's power. @kingant27 said:. agreed the PR beyonder was kind of like a super amped version of the loeb force 13 years ago. Ehh closest would be PR Beyonder I guess The closest would be geb i think him and the presence when combined are absolute infinite everything. Has this been done before? the Search function is screwing me over if so. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. Minor nitpick. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. His isn't from another universe. Dude is literally from a universe(?) that is larger than the entire marvel universe(?), and was it's sole occupant. Okay I've got a theory, you're either a bot or a really young kid who's interested in Battleboarding and is just throwing random characters out to see what's happening. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. 9 years ago. Forum Posts. Follow 23177. Share. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. Phoenix is on par with those guys. And PR Beyonder is possibly the most ridiculously powerful. Michael doesn't really have a lot in the way of feats, other than statements by other characters and some. And matched Mxy at one point. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. also, according to the bible, he can be killed, as the incarnation of Jesus, with a few spear pokes and soem crucifiction. TOAA is above Thanos with the HOTU, a writer is> the written character. ". 13 years ago. Based on Marvel’s cosmology back in the 80’s - 90’s (which I mentioned in the scalin I provided), Classic Beyonder would be Outerversal since he is ”beyond” the Marvel Multiverse. There are 5 magics, and one of the 5 magicians killed the original vampire moon god. 7 years ago. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. IMO, PR Beyonder can outdo anything Bill can do and more. Gokuisthebest. PR Beyonder had every single abstract and Living Tribunal at his knees. We're fighting the Guardians now the new ones (Hal, Atroticus, Lareeflezz, Sinestro, Carol, Saint walker, Indigo 1) Atroticus is Blood luInhuman BeyonderPost-Retcon Molecule ManLiving TribunalOblivionGalactus w/ Ultimate NulifierMad Jim JaspersHeralds of Galactus:The Fallen OneSilver SuThe Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Who wins? & who are each U's Omniversal beings? If someone does DC, I'll then do marvels to show there superiAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. To make it a shorter list, Beyonder's presence threatens the whole of the Marvel multiverse, and he sweeps aside the Living Tribunal, Galactus, Doom; everything in it basically. By no means is he actually more powerful than the Living Tribunal, PR-Beyonder, etc. Follow 75. , but, outside of those and omnipotent characters (like TOAA, The Creator), she beats pretty much anyone. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). PR Beyonder absolutely evaporates John Constantine from existence, then brings him back, only to evaporate him again. Follow 26437. %Pr "this is not pre-con beyonder, it's cosmic cube being beyonder and a full power PF would be white crown who both these people can't beat 14 years ago. ReplyFor this fight: PR MM was written to be above any entity from Marvel Ominverse, except PR Beyonder of course. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. 14 from eithe side. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. Of this, The Beyonder is the Supreme Being of that Outerverse, which is orders of magnitude larger than the Infinite Multivwrse. Win by death, KO, incap PR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. The deciding factor imo is that Lucifer is a bloody genius. This topic is locked from further discussion. PR Beyonder, on the other hand, treated Galactus like a bug. "@Pr_Beyonder: michael created the but lucifer gave it form, basically its like michael has the universe creating energy but lucifer can manipulate that energy into things,. Pre-retcon Molecule Man hasn't paid his taxes in like, 10 years, since he's been been galavanting around the universe. 4 years ago. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. very mutch doubt that. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. Still "omniverse" is a nonsense. Besides when PR Beyonder and PR Molecular Man fought , we know MM was Beyonder's only friend. 1 year ago. I haven't been keeping up, but that sounds interesting. 10 months ago. Morals off. ultimatewarrior123. 0. None of them have ever specifically resisted speed force speed stealing. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. PR Beyonder 1B likely 1A. He could quite literally blink Dr Manhattan out of existence. PR Beyonder was designated just under TOAA due to his Omnipotence in his own universe or something to that effect. Apr 2014. Even a fight between Dr Manhattan and Franklin Richards, Manhattan out 9/10 lose. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). 13 years ago. Beyonder doesn't stand a chance, Beyonder is a little germ compared to the thought robot, and it would instantly get immune to beyonder reality warping. The Demon of Elru. 2. is TOAA, or at least part of him. So who wins this epic clash to end all clashes? Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet. Casually Oneshotting all of dc is beyond anything pr beyonder or any beyonders have ever done. at the time "Don't make me post a pic of you in that one armor. PR Beyonder was crazy powerful, and i have seen threads where he would beat thought robot superman. Follow 3313. this was stated by Jim Shooter the creator of Secret Wars and the beyonder. 10 years ago. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking…Marvel has only hype, pr beyonder is the only char to be so hyped he is seen as the strongest. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . @Pr_Beyonder: uncle ben is a boss the LT qoutes him in all honesty he does loose every round except possibly 1 and 5 also hank prime would have to be pressing way more than 1. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Even PR Beyonder is just an infinite dimensional reality warper, and the Archetypes whom are significantly weaker than the Outer Gods control infinite dimensional multiverses and beings like chess. Pokergeist. PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. Copy. @Pr_Beyonder said: " @FLCL1 said: " @demifiend said: " current mohamed ali "he beats his ass "Muhammad Ali would kick kick ass's ass. The beyonders were stated to be bound by linear time. Posts. Beyonder was either just omnipotent or the closest to it that anyone has gotten without being it. 1958325779 • 2 yr. PR Beyonder would blink Superman 1 million (whether gold or Kal kent) into non-existence. Originally, the Beyonder was the supreme being of another reality, dragged into the Marvel Multiverse by a failed. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Decoy Elite: Hey,Disco suits were B. User. Im suprised that PR Beyonder isnt here. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. Win by death, KO, incap. ago. New Comics. 1. Forum Posts. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space,. The Ivory Kings are still not at PRB's level, and shouldn't be regarded as his equals, let alone his superiors. It was obvious there that the Pre-Retcon Beyonder would absolutely ra-pe a 100% Galactus. The one who shines like Gold upon the Sea of Chaos can beat Cosmic Armor Superman. deactivated-5ee15da0e0aad. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. Living Tribunal. Apr 2014. Reply reply more replies. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. Put MM on the other team and the result is the same. Based on physics, molecules, space and time.